[GSDI Legal Econ] Something that the Legal & Socioeconomic Working Group should consider
Sergio Acosta y Lara
sacosta at dntopografia.gub.uy
Mon May 26 10:31:30 EDT 2008
Thank you, Roger, for your answer. These things annoy me particularly. I
wish to hear more opinions from other list members.
Sergio Acosta y Lara
Roger Longhorn wrote:
> Sergio Acosta y Lara wrote:
>
>> What do you think of this?
>> http://www.mes.edu.cu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=87&Itemid=2
>>
>> Shouldn't the Legal & Socioeconomic Working Group express an opinion
>> about it? A colleague from Cuba tried to download a software called
>> Sextante that runs over gvSIG (the open-source GIS software developed
>> by the Government of Valencia, Spain) but he couldn't do it: a
>> message appeared telling him "you are accessing this page from a
>> forbidden country". Sextante is also open-source and was created by
>> the Universidad de Extremadura (also Spain); as it seems that they
>> are using googlecode.com, anybody from Cuba (and from Iran, Libya,
>> North Korea, Sudan or Syria) cannot download this open-source
>> software (that is located in Spain). Directly concerning GSDI, G goes
>> for Global. Aren't these decisions going just in the opposite
>> direction? Just an opinion.
>> Regards,
>> Sergio
>
>
> Hello Sergio,
>
> You offer an interesting comment on an issue concerning restricting
> access to what should be freely accessible, open source software,
> where the decision to restrict access is not made by the software
> owner but by a third party - in this case, Google code
> (code.google.com), a US-based organisation, acting within restrictions
> placed on software exporting by the US government. The relevant clause
> in the Google code "Terms of Service" is:
>
> "5.2 You agree to use the Services only for purposes that are
> permitted by (a) the Terms and (b) any applicable law, regulation or
> generally accepted practices or guidelines in the relevant
> jurisdictions (including any laws regarding the export of data or
> software to and from the United States or other relevant countries)."
>
> These regulations are set by the US Bureau of Industry and Security
> (http://www.bis.doc.gov/policiesandregulations/index.htm) - see below:
>
> "The Bureau of Industry and Security is charged with the development,
> implementation and interpretation of U.S. export control policy for
> dual-use commodities, software, and technology. Dual-use items subject
> to BIS regulatory jurisdiction have predominantly commercial uses, but
> also have military applications. In order to accomplish this
> objective, BIS seeks to promulgate clear, concise, and timely
> regulations. This section of our Web site provides a link to the
> Bureau's regulations governing exports of dual-use items (the "Export
> Administration Regulations"), codified at 15 Code of Federal
> Regulations, Chapter 7. It also provides discussions of certain key
> regulatory policy areas, including policies governing exports of high
> performance computers, exports of encryption products, deemed exports,
> U.S. antiboycott regulations, special regional considerations, the
> multilateral export control regimes, and the technical advisory
> committees."
> <ends>
>
> Due to the many uses to which geospatial data and tools (GIS software,
> remote sensing analysis software, etc.) can be put for 'military
> applications' (in fact, an entire sector within the GIS and RS
> industries!), it is not difficult to see why much of this software can
> fall under the export restriction classification.
>
> In typical non-joined up government style, the BIS web site will then
> lead you off to web sites from the US Treasury Department, US State
> Department, and, most importantly, the Export Administration
> Regulations web site (http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/index.html) in
> your search for information on what you can "export" and to whom - or
> not - and under what licenses or restrictions.
>
> The simple solution is for both these open source software providers
> to stop offering their software via code.google.com, due to these
> restrictive practices.
>
> If your concern is about not being able to access the base software
> via code.google.com, then this is avoided by simply using the
> developers' own sites to access the same software - which in the case
> of gvSIG is certainly possible - simply go to:
>
> http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=1729&L=2&K=1
>
> and for Sextante, go to: http://www.sextantegis.com/en/index.htm
>
> If the problem is that some add-ons for gvSIG, such as the simple
> geoRSS feeder at http://code.google.com/p/georssgvsigsupport/ use
> Google code, then that is another matter altogether, since it is that
> specific code that may be subject to the restriction on export. This
> would also apply to Sextante and any other open source software that
> used code from Google that was deemed to be non-exportable to certain
> countries - or even named individuals (yes, there is such a list! -
> see the EAR site mentioned above). In other words, incorporating
> Google APIs into your software requires that you adhere to the rules
> that Google must follow in regard to export of software from the USA -
> even if neither you (the developer) nor your user are based in the USA.
>
> Don't forget, the same restrictions apply to GIS software from US
> vendors, such as ESRI (see
> http://www.esri.com/legal/export/export-definitions.html) and
> Microsoft - where their standard EULA states:
>
> 9. *EXPORT RESTRICTIONS*. You acknowledge that the Software
> is subject to U.S. export jurisdiction. You agree to comply with all
> applicable international and national laws that apply to the Software,
> including the U.S. Export Administration Regulations, as well as
> end-user, end-use, and destination restrictions issued by U.S. and
> other governments. For additional information see
> _<http://www.microsoft.com/exporting/>_.
>
>
> This is an issue that many researchers and software developers do
> ovelook and which we touched on in "Legal Issues in the Use of
> Geospatial Data and Tools for Agriculture and Natural Resource
> Management: A Primer" (freely downloadable as PDF from
> http://csi.cgiar.org/download/IPR_Primer.pdf) developed for the global
> Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research (CGIAR)
> Consortium for Spatial Information (http://csi.cgiar.org/IPR.asp) in
> 2002. Most researchers were unaware that if they incorporated software
> into their final applications that was made available to them under
> export restriction rules, then the resulting applications were
> themselves restricted under the same terms.
>
> I guess this is something for the open source community to take up
> with Google, but the possibility of changing US foreign policy (which
> is what drives the export restrictions) seems pretty remote to me!
>
> Open source software developers - beware!
>
> Kind regards
>
> Roger Longhorn
> co-Chair, GSDI Association Legal & Socioeconomic Working Group
>
>
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