[GSDI Technical] Google/ESRI announcement in plain English

[Rob Atkinson]

I was explicitly separating the exploitation aspect from the data publishing
process. There will be a spectrumof strategies for either, but, as Google
etc show, the explotiation comes _after_ a critical mass of data is
available. I see no reason to assume this wont hold for thematic data too.
There are applications that require us to deal with real-world concpets, not
just navigation and base map context. We should be aiming to enable the next
generation of mash-ups using real data.

R


On 5/17/08, michael gould <gould at lsi.uji.es> wrote:
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>  Agreed, but exploitation (by real people, not only GI experts) in a
> productive (and even fun!) manner is an important goal as well.
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> Mike
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> *De:* Rob Atkinson [mailto:robatkinson101 at gmail.com]
> *Enviado el:* sábado, 17 de mayo de 2008 6:40
> *Para:* michael gould
> *CC:* Kate Lance; SDI technical
> *Asunto:* Re: [GSDI Technical] Google/ESRI announcement in plain English
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> yes, mash-up techniques are great to exploit a SDI, but not a basis for
> planning one! SDIs are not computing infrastructures, they are data supply
> infrastructures. People exploit the "SDI" provided by the base map provider,
> which may or may not meet business needs. Another approach is required to
> have features you can interact with, such as admin boundaries, roads,
> schools. Mash-ups will work for local scale views, but not against the
> broader goals of sustainability or security that SDIs are required for.
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> Rob Atkinson
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> On 5/17/08, *michael gould* <gould at lsi.uji.es> wrote:
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> Kate/all,
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> Also intertsting (I think) is Dangermond's concern, genuine I think (minute
> 26 of the video), about the future of mixing so-called Volunteered Geo Info,
> with the traditional authoritative geoinfo….within the mashup scenario.
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> Cheers,
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> Mike Gould
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> *De:* technical-bounces at lists.gsdi.org [mailto:
> technical-bounces at lists.gsdi.org] *En nombre de *Kate Lance
> *Enviado el:* viernes, 16 de mayo de 2008 13:58
> *Para:* SDI technical
> *Asunto:* [GSDI Technical] Google/ESRI announcement in plain English
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> http://apb.directionsmag.com/archives/4293-GoogleESRI-Announcement-in-Plain-English.html
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> Google/ESRI announcement in plain English
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> The announcements out of Where 2.0 from John Hanke of Google and Jack
> Dangermond regarding integrating neogeography with professional GIS (perhaps
> not the best terms, but I'm confident readers understand) are quite a lot to
> digest. (Video available here,
> http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2008/05/where-20-video-googleesri-keyn.html )
> But that's ok, both companies are resetting their visions with regard to the
> other, to data and to services and it's certainly time for that.
> Here's the substance of the relevant announcements teased out of coverage
> from Where 2.0, where the two geotechnologists shared the stage yesterday.
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> ArcGIS Server 9.3 (available in about 4 weeks, per Dangermond) will make
> its metadata service "scrapable" into KML and thus findable via Google's
> geographic search (once known as KML search). Further, ArcGIS Server will be
> able to publish not only that data as streaming KML (and GeoRSS) but also
> related services. Dangermond showed finding data from a Portland, Oregon
> service, visualizing it and then performing analysis, all from Google Earth.
> Said another way, all data and services served by ArcGIS Server could
> potentially be findable and usable in any Google mashup. Further, the
> resultant KML can be used in app that supports the OGC standard.
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> - ESRI has enhanced the API for ArcGIS Server 9.3 (JavaScript/Flash) to
> make it more conducive to plugging into other Web mapping properties in
> mashups.
> - Google is making its geographic search available in its various APIs. To
> date it was only available via Google Maps and Google Earth applications.
> Now any Google developers will be able to do "local search" on explicitly
> tagged data (KML built via MyMaps or 3rd party apps like Platial and Flckr
> or your GIS!).
> This is a huge step forward for geography (neo, paleo, and all the rest).
> It does indeed bring the hidden data and emerging Web services from the huge
> ESRI community out into the light of day.
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